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	...		{{Style S-Small capitals\|One}}''' '''day at Parell His Royal Highness had an hour of quiet amusement in camp, watching the tricks of some Indian jugglers and snake-charmers, which have been described a hundred times over, and which never lose their interest for the spectator. After breakfast a ragged train of fellows leading apes and carrying bags was seen coming up the main street of the camp to one of the tents. These were followed by seven or eight ugly, shapeless elderly women in bright drapery, carrying what are considered here musical instruments. They all squatted under the shade of the trees in front of one of the tents apart—conjurors, ape leaders, singing women. Presently the Prince sauntered down from the house and took a seat in front of the tent, and his suite sat or stood around him, while the charmers and conjurors prepared for their exhibition, but the natives had no idea of the illustrious person’s identity. The camp followers gathered round, and soldiers from the tents near at hand, till one of the suite, remembering what occurred on a similar occasion in India, cleared them away. The jugglers and snake-charmers were the first to show off. They were only two—old chatty fellows whose skin hung on their bones as if it were cracked brown paper. They did some clever “passes,” swallowed and spat out fire, produced an enchanted inexhaustible water vessel, walked on wooden pattens held on by the action of the feet making a vacuum —in fact the withered, vivacious old juggler and his ragged old confederate performed all the orthodox tricks of their confraternity. Where did he get the cobras which he produced suddenly out of two baskets which had been turned over, inside out, in our presence? It was not the drumming of his friend or the playing on the dry gourd which drew the reptiles out of coyer. A little thrill went through the spectators as the reptiles raised their flaming eyes and hooded crests, hissing fiercely, reared on end as if to strike the garrulous charmer. Dr. Fayrer opened the jaws of the larger with a stick while the man held it, and showed the Prince where the fangs were ''not.''''''' '''''The snakes danced to the music of a gourd drum, but it was with rage and fear, not with pleasure. Meantime a mango under the dirty cloth was growing, and in an interval of snake work, the old fellow dashed at the latter and exposed a fresh bright green mango tree some eighteen inches high in the ground, where he had apparently only put in a mango seed. Expressions of wonder followed; then the cloth was thrown over the tree and another of the famous legendary legerdemain feats was executed. A shallow basket about 18in. high and 3ft. long, with a cover, was placed before the Prince. It was plain there was no deceit. It was a basket and nothing more or less, and it was put on the bare earth before our eyes. At a call there came out from the group of natives near at hand a lad of 12 or so, slight of figure and pleasant of face, with not an article of dress save his loin cloth and a dirty turban. Him the old man, chattering the while, bound hand and foot ''a la''''''' '''''Brothers Anyone in twine. Then a sack, made of strong netting, was produced, and the old fellow slipped it over the lad, whom he squeezed down on his haunches so that he could tie the cords securely over his head, and lift him from the ground to prove how secure he was. He seemed to use great force to put the lad into the basket, and to have much difficulty in fitting the lid on the top of him. When that was done the music was renewed by one, and the other juggler began to talk to his basket. Presently the lid was agitated, and the cord and net were jerked out and fell on the ground. Then the juggler ran at the basket in a fury, jumped on the top, crushed in the lid, stamped on it, took a stick and drove it with force through the wicker {{Style S-HPB SB. Continues on\|5-62}}


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Sergey at 17:30, 10 February 2024

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-{{Style P-No indent|vation, simply because they are without the pale of the Church of Christ. Setting these aside as lost, we have still left 350.000.000 professing Christians of one kind or another—observe, however, that the idolaters amount to at least three times this number. But, to be orthodox in our estimate, we must still further reduce the numbers of those likely to be saved,—first, by all the Roman Catholics, of whom there, are 182,422,532; also the Greek Church, amounting to 74,614.300—the two latter amounting in all to 257,046,832. This leaves us only the Protest ant churches, the united members of which only amount to 99.755,534. being not much more than a third of the whole Christian Church. Shall we then stop here, and take our 95,755.534 Protestants as the number of those for whom salvation is possible? No, says our theology; you must deduct from these, at least, the Unitarians, 183,000; the Mormons, of'' ''whom there are 100.902; the Swedenborgians, 12.000: and some would even include the Universalists, amounting to 656,000, thus reducing the Protestants to 94,803,632. But we must remember that these figures embrace a great variety of sects and de nominations, as the Lutherans, Calvinists, Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, Quakers, Moravians, Adventists, and others of less note, in each of which it is only the advanced minds that will admit the possibility of salvation out of their own communion. And were it possible to ascertain the precise number of those who are really the followers of Christ, perhaps our total would dwindle down from millions to as many thousands.}}
+{{Style P-No indent|which Mr. Massey has indicated its possible application, I am unable to perceive the manner in which an assumed current passing through assumed ideomotor nerves, whose functions have no relation to any of the sympathetic centres of the body, could not only pass beyond the limits of the medium’s body, but generate a separate entity outside it. And when that separate entity is capable of free volition; when it shows hands whose action involves that of trachial, and possibly of shoulder, muscles; when the force which ''e.g., ''lifts a chair or touches a coat, acts from a centre at a distance from the medium’s body, I cannot see how such force can be said to be analagous or identical with that cerebral or even reflex action by which the medium may move his own hands or feet. I accord with Mr. Massey that the battle of Spiritualism will have to be fought over the “intelligence.” I confess that the spiritual theory, merely as a provisional hypothesis, is far more convenient than that of the physiologists; at the same time, that, as I have already expressed, the truth may lie between the two extremes. For if the old Epicurean philosophy is once disinterred from the oblivion of which it is unworthy, the conditions under which duplication of the ''forma ''of an object by the production of its ''simulacrum ''may be effected are clearly comprehensible and definable. Such ''simulacra ''or ''eidola'' may be like the body of Dr. Slade; they may imitate his handwriting; their hands may be similar to and capable of as free volition as his own, and yet they may not be in any way “spiritual.” Such “form” may be diminished to a less extent than that of the original body, which may account for the writing by a slate pencil fragment in a space less than half an inch in vertical diameter. The form producing this writing may not be, and probably is not, as large as that of an ordinary human hand. I am merely indicating this line of argument, premising that the account of the Epicurean philosophy given in ''Diogenes'' ''Laertius ''is perfectly unintelligible without comparison with the ''Fragmenta ''of which we must regret that so little is preserved to us.}}
-Surely these facts require no comment. No thinking mind could possibly admit that such a manifest failure of the whole scheme of creation is possible, and when we know from actual testimony that such a person and place as the orthodox devil and hell does not exist in the afterlife, we may well banish such God degrading and demoralizing doctrines as these, which have, like a hideous nightmare, burdened Immunity too long.
+I may also remark that a duplication of form by no means involves a duplication of matter, nor of substance. Of course I use the word substance in the sense of Aquinas; and while wishing to avoid all theological controversy, would express my opinion that the teaching of the schools as to matter and form has in England, at least, been steadily going down hill:—

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	vation, simply because they are without the pale of the Church of Christ. Setting these aside as lost, we have still left 350.000.000 professing Christians of one kind or another—observe, however, that the idolaters amount to at least three times this number. But, to be orthodox in our estimate, we must still further reduce the numbers of those likely to be saved,—first, by all the Roman Catholics, of whom there, are 182,422,532; also the Greek Church, amounting to 74,614.300—the two latter amounting in all to 257,046,832. This leaves us only the Protest ant churches, the united members of which only amount to 99.755,534. being not much more than a third of the whole Christian Church. Shall we then stop here, and take our 95,755.534 Protestants as the number of those for whom salvation is possible? No, says our theology; you must deduct from these, at least, the Unitarians, 183,000; the Mormons, of'' ''whom there are 100.902; the Swedenborgians, 12.000: and some would even include the Universalists, amounting to 656,000, thus reducing the Protestants to 94,803,632. But we must remember that these figures embrace a great variety of sects and de nominations, as the Lutherans, Calvinists, Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, Quakers, Moravians, Adventists, and others of less note, in each of which it is only the advanced minds that will admit the possibility of salvation out of their own communion. And were it possible to ascertain the precise number of those who are really the followers of Christ, perhaps our total would dwindle down from millions to as many thousands.		{{Style P-No indent\|vation, simply because they are without the pale of the Church of Christ. Setting these aside as lost, we have still left 350.000.000 professing Christians of one kind or another—observe, however, that the idolaters amount to at least three times this number. But, to be orthodox in our estimate, we must still further reduce the numbers of those likely to be saved,—first, by all the Roman Catholics, of whom there, are 182,422,532; also the Greek Church, amounting to 74,614.300—the two latter amounting in all to 257,046,832. This leaves us only the Protest ant churches, the united members of which only amount to 99.755,534. being not much more than a third of the whole Christian Church. Shall we then stop here, and take our 95,755.534 Protestants as the number of those for whom salvation is possible? No, says our theology; you must deduct from these, at least, the Unitarians, 183,000; the Mormons, of'' ''whom there are 100.902; the Swedenborgians, 12.000: and some would even include the Universalists, amounting to 656,000, thus reducing the Protestants to 94,803,632. But we must remember that these figures embrace a great variety of sects and de nominations, as the Lutherans, Calvinists, Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, Quakers, Moravians, Adventists, and others of less note, in each of which it is only the advanced minds that will admit the possibility of salvation out of their own communion. And were it possible to ascertain the precise number of those who are really the followers of Christ, perhaps our total would dwindle down from millions to as many thousands.}}

	Surely these facts require no comment. No thinking mind could possibly admit that such a manifest failure of the whole scheme of creation is possible, and when we know from actual testimony that such a person and place as the orthodox devil and hell does not exist in the afterlife, we may well banish such God degrading and demoralizing doctrines as these, which have, like a hideous nightmare, burdened Immunity too long.		Surely these facts require no comment. No thinking mind could possibly admit that such a manifest failure of the whole scheme of creation is possible, and when we know from actual testimony that such a person and place as the orthodox devil and hell does not exist in the afterlife, we may well banish such God degrading and demoralizing doctrines as these, which have, like a hideous nightmare, burdened Immunity too long.

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	...		vation, simply because they are without the pale of the Church of Christ. Setting these aside as lost, we have still left 350.000.000 professing Christians of one kind or another—observe, however, that the idolaters amount to at least three times this number. But, to be orthodox in our estimate, we must still further reduce the numbers of those likely to be saved,—first, by all the Roman Catholics, of whom there, are 182,422,532; also the Greek Church, amounting to 74,614.300—the two latter amounting in all to 257,046,832. This leaves us only the Protest ant churches, the united members of which only amount to 99.755,534. being not much more than a third of the whole Christian Church. Shall we then stop here, and take our 95,755.534 Protestants as the number of those for whom salvation is possible? No, says our theology; you must deduct from these, at least, the Unitarians, 183,000; the Mormons, of'' ''whom there are 100.902; the Swedenborgians, 12.000: and some would even include the Universalists, amounting to 656,000, thus reducing the Protestants to 94,803,632. But we must remember that these figures embrace a great variety of sects and de nominations, as the Lutherans, Calvinists, Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, Quakers, Moravians, Adventists, and others of less note, in each of which it is only the advanced minds that will admit the possibility of salvation out of their own communion. And were it possible to ascertain the precise number of those who are really the followers of Christ, perhaps our total would dwindle down from millions to as many thousands.

			Surely these facts require no comment. No thinking mind could possibly admit that such a manifest failure of the whole scheme of creation is possible, and when we know from actual testimony that such a person and place as the orthodox devil and hell does not exist in the afterlife, we may well banish such God degrading and demoralizing doctrines as these, which have, like a hideous nightmare, burdened Immunity too long.

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